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WELCOME

to this haven for those who are infatuated with anything art

here, we will be critiquing each other’s works, giving out pointers on how to improve, admiring masterpieces, fangirl-ing over art supplies, softwares, graphics pads, awesome artists and the like, sharing our processes, wips and everything else related to art

i know there is already a 'show your drawings thread but i find that pointers and discussions on some things are not always welcome there and that is why this place exists

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Introductions
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how it works
introduce yourself in this introductions thread; where you want to be in the future, your favorite artists, your spirit animal, your favorite color and style, your purpose in participating in this thread ect. and anything else you want to say β€” be creative! OuO

and then I’ll add you to the taglist so that you know when new threads are made and stuff c:

~

If you want a critique on your drawing, just post it here and describe what you’re trying to do.

When critiquing, please critique the latest work that was posted for feedback first, and them move on to others you wish to critique - this ensures that none are left out.

To start a discussion, just post whatever is on your mind and people interested will reply.

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TAGLIST

@astrxphoria @zatzka @ilianasarigo @scmimi @minahava @Anniewilliams22 @giveitameaning @kadauhara99 @letterbyowl @TheGrumpyMountain

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#4
tips on how to critique
i saw this somewhere else and found this useful (i would credit but i forgot where exactly it was >.<)

the hamburger model
- critique is separated into three parts; the two pieces of bread and the meat
- the bread piece on top has to look really appealing with all the nice garnishing; compliment the work here and tell the artist everything that went well
- the meat is the stuff you really want; tell the artist everything that did not work out (be honest and harsh but not too harsh maybe lol)and tips on how to fix it
- the bread at the bottom includes a small summary and more compliments - to remind the artist that you gave all those nice compliments at the start c:

or just do what you usually do cx

tag the person you’re critiquing and β€˜reply’ to the post with the drawing
this way, the person who receives a critique will get separate notifications for each critique and they will also be able to see exactly which one of their works had been given feedback on

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#5
ANNOUNCEMENTS

this is a fairly new thing that I'm trying out that won't work if there aren't enough people interested - (i really hope this works out tho o.o)

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#6

bumpp

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#7

free bump (am I the first one here? I’m never the first one lol it’s more my style to be unintentionally and unfashionably late to everything)

(though when I view the threads on anything other than a desktop the title coding just turns into boxes so maybe it’s partly that? maybe people don’t realise what it is?)

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#8

(there were people who β€˜liked’ the first post but didn’t post here ;-; )

(the whole title? o.o)

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#9

It actually works fine for me. I was going to post here sooner but I was busy at that time. This seems interesting and I’d be interested to join in. :slight_smile:

(Though, I’m not sure about the introduction thread. Do I have to post my intro there?)

Edit: nevermind, I’ll post my introduction now~

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#10

@astrxphoria I’m liking this o.o

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#11

Yeah, but it might just be my devices being out of date and not understanding code. I’m terrible at keeping up with updates, so if it’s fine on other people’s devices it might be that :sweat_smile:

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#12

Any suggestions on what I should do to get better at drawing backgrounds, landscapes and cities?
I mean usually I draw stuff from google images, but it’s so complicated and takes too much patience that I don’t have.

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#13

I have a few suggestions, but I’m not an expert at landscapes and backgrounds - this is just what I’m using to help myself learn/stuff that I’ve found useful :blush: I hope some of it useful for you, anyway.

  • Learn the rules of perspective - honestly this is a bit of a bind, but pretty important to know for things like cities and landscapes and means you don’t have to rely so heavily on photo references. Plenty of tutorials around online for one-point, two-point, three-point perspectives, horizon/eye level, etc. A really good exercise is drawing cubes above and below the horizon line at different angles (if you’d like I can show you some of my practice pages, I don’t think I explained it too well).

  • Draw perspective lines on photos - try and figure out where the horizon line, vanishing points and perspective lines run in photographs to β€˜dissect’ the scene.

  • Do studies of landscape/city/background artwork that you like - if there are artists you like who do this kind of thing, try and figure out how they do it and try and replicate it during practice. Art magazines/YouTube artists often have painting/drawing step-by-steps that you can follow (which has incidentally been one of my favourite resources for learning colour theory).

  • If you have a photo reference, don’t try and draw everything in the photo - the problem with photo references is that it flattens the perspective and means you can see all the details. If you look at a lot of landscape art, you’ll notice that the artists don’t include everything, and if you look across a landscape with your naked eye, you also don’t register all the details that the camera will. The β€˜further back’ in the picture you go, the less detail there is; it focuses the viewer’s eye and prevents the picture from looking cluttered. It’s also often why colours become softer and more desaturated in the background. Plus, saves a lot of hassle trying to draw everything.

  • Draw from life if possible - In terms of making a landscape/background focused and appealing, your eye is a better guide than the camera. You can see what your eye is drawn to and what it skims over, and gives a better idea of where to focus your picture. It also helps your spatial awareness, how to draw objects in three dimensions, where things lie in relation to each other and how to translate it to paper. I’m not going to lie, though, I find this really, really hard :sweat_smile: If it’s hard, though, it’s usually a sign it’s worth working for, I guess?

I don’t know how much of this is helpful, but maybe it’s a starting point, idk :sweat_smile: I really struggle with backgrounds and perspective, but I have noticed improvements from doing stuff like this, so you never know lol

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#14

I find perspective confusing, but yeah I do need to work on it more.

Thank you for the advice!

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#15

Np! Same honestly lol. I see some artists who show their process with all the perspective lines on it and no matter how hard I stare I don’t feel any the wiser :joy:

image

Like… wut? :weary:

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#17

I’d like to add to this because perspective and backgrounds are my worst nightmare. Art is a learning thing and a lot of the times we learn from each other and we all learn differently. Some from reading art books, others from watching.

I follow this girl on Twitter and she posts a few videos on how she sets up a scene and her process of drawing. And even if her technique doesn’t work for you… it’s hella satisfying to watch

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#18

That is really satisfying, haha

I completely agree; I find video tutorials a bit frustrating to follow, but when I started following the occasional step-by-step and exercises in books and magazines I noticed I wasn’t getting as frustrated. It’s all about trying lots of different methods and forms of practice to find what works for you by process of elimination :blush:

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#19

I personally can’t follow step by steps so I’ve always liked β€œspeed painting” esque videos. Instructional videos are no good for me either. I just learn better when no one is trying to hard core teach me anything LOL

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#20

Do you draw digitally or traditionally?
Just the background alone or something in the midground or foreground as the focus?

I also cannot draw backgrounds tbh and I’m also just really bad at composition and deciding which things should be where in general…

I was also trying to study up on backgrounds a couple months back (digitally) and there were so many different processes and techniques there that were so much in contrast to each other.

Some people would just use a gradients, and place materials, duplicate small things they draw a bit of, put them everywhere, and add adjustments and effects in the end and the result actually turns out to be a really detailed looking background - which I actually think is cheating, a bit, but I guess that is what you have to do if you draw web comics and manga (they weren’t doing it for comics either though).

Some people just skip the whole background process, choose a picture, blur it so that it’s not as obvious that it’s a picture, and add that.

And then there are people who are willing to draw every single strand of grass individually - this, I think is a bit too over the top but I guess if you have enough time and is big or originality and all, that also works.

So in conc, process differs based on artist’s priority and the purpose of the piece of art. Its generally also true that the more time you spend on it, the more detailed it’ll look so you can also consider how much time the piece might be worth - people who draw of scratch without material and special brushes usually take ten hours or more to draw a realistic and detailed background.

(I’ve given up on backgrounds for the time tbh cx)

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I only have the supplies to draw traditionally. Digital art programs sound so cool, but good computers, drawing tablets, and the software itself adds up to a lot of money.
sometimes I draw backgrounds for characters, sometimes I just draw landscapes. What really frightens me is the idea that I’ll try to draw a comic… set in a city. XD
If I want to draw a decent comic ever I need to improve… well, every aspect of my art really. But backgrounds are one thing in particular I hardly work on.

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